tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post609693642630979246..comments2024-03-12T07:54:08.013+00:00Comments on Offerimus Tibi Domine: Order of St Lazarus InvestitureFr Simon Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05375804232895565241noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-33358882051820453902012-10-22T11:34:29.677+01:002012-10-22T11:34:29.677+01:00Dear Bain,
The Order of St Lazarus is not, & h...Dear Bain,<br />The Order of St Lazarus is not, & has never been, an equestrian Order under Papal juristiction. My information is that the recent document is aimed at some very dubious groups that claim to be able to offer membership to the great traditional Equestrian Orders of the Church under the juristiction of the Holy See, or the Knights of Malta, but who, in fact, have nothing to do with them. For a clarification of the position of the Order of St Lazarus to which I belong see our own blog: http://osljgb.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/statement-on-secretariat-of-states.htmlFr Simon Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05375804232895565241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-68084149330658303462012-10-21T16:05:56.983+01:002012-10-21T16:05:56.983+01:00Granted that your post is dated 15 October, Father...Granted that your post is dated 15 October, Father, and further to the comment by Simon and to the involvement of Cardinal Duka and (as you say) the Papal Nuncio (although that link is broken), it would seem to be vital for you to address the serious issue raised by this Note of Clarification issued by The Secretariate of State on 16 October:-<br />http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2012/10/note-of-clarification-from-secretariat.html<br /><br />The last sentence of the Note is particularly relevant:-<br /><br />"To avoid any possible doubts, even owing to illicit issuing of documents or the inappropriate use of sacred places, and to prevent the continuation of abuses which may result in harm to people of good faith, the Holy See confirms that it attributes absolutely no value whatsoever to certificates of membership or insignia issued by these groups, and it considers inappropriate the use of churches or chapels for their so-called 'ceremonies of investiture'."Bain Wellingtonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-3919869831629084482012-10-16T18:31:06.744+01:002012-10-16T18:31:06.744+01:00Simon,
Because of various spilts over the centurie...Simon,<br />Because of various spilts over the centuries, there are other organisations claiming the name "Order of St Lazarus". However, these groups lack any legitimacy - the Temporal Protection of the Royal House of France & the Spiritual Protection of the Church in the person of our Chaplain General Cardinal Duka. Another sizeable group, for example, claim a 'Grand Master' who, although a Catholic, was divorced and remarried at the time he took office and therefore not in good standing with the Church, and have a high-ranking Freemason as a Grand Prior.<br />The Order to which I belong will not allow freemasons to join & members must be in good standing with their Church.Fr Simon Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05375804232895565241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-59702091491918500052012-10-16T12:43:28.514+01:002012-10-16T12:43:28.514+01:00As, I think, you know, Fr Simon, I am a Knight of ...As, I think, you know, Fr Simon, I am a Knight of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem. What surprised (shocked?) me was that, at our seminar prior to investiture, we are advised not to join other Orders of Catholic knighthood. Can you tell me why?David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-56774143345382694202012-10-15T19:07:30.658+01:002012-10-15T19:07:30.658+01:00What is a "Green Cross" organisation, pl...What is a "Green Cross" organisation, please, Father?Simon Platthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196039882299400327noreply@blogger.com