tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post7342571042382373299..comments2024-03-12T07:54:08.013+00:00Comments on Offerimus Tibi Domine: "A liturgy no longer familiar with kneeling would be sick at the core." - Card. RatzingerFr Simon Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05375804232895565241noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-62381070430740241232011-06-16T10:33:40.848+01:002011-06-16T10:33:40.848+01:00Totally agree Simon. have a young girl in the pari...Totally agree Simon. have a young girl in the parish she is only twenty who always kneels to receive Holy Communion. A great example to the rest of the parish. The young lady in question is considering a vocation hope she is not put off!!!Fr Kennynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-80307615188575441712011-06-15T18:36:48.385+01:002011-06-15T18:36:48.385+01:00A few years ago when in Rome I found myself kneeli...A few years ago when in Rome I found myself kneeling at the Consecratin while the rest of the congregation were standing. This is a sign I am told of an `adult` faith. They do not want devotions and adoration in England and Wales because such things are out of date in the `21st century. We `wlk in procession` do we" What a load of rubbish. I have been walking in procession since I was 7 and I never knew. I am now 73. The poor blind bishops are trying to make `community` fout of everything.John Kearneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13074138642860577242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-68610627829723269742011-06-15T11:57:11.150+01:002011-06-15T11:57:11.150+01:00The desert father Abba Apollo was attacked by the ...The desert father Abba Apollo was attacked by the devil.<br /><br />He noticed that the devil had no knees - for he cannot adore, cannot worship, cannot kneel...<br /><br />Thank you for continuing to uphold the truth Father - both in season and out!<br /><br />In Christ<br />Alan and Angelinetorchofthefaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09128214322674215841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-34513667929682721622011-06-15T09:17:24.722+01:002011-06-15T09:17:24.722+01:00A number of us in our parish always genuflect befo...A number of us in our parish always genuflect before receiving Holy Communion. That practice will not change simply because this perverse instruction has been enshrined as a local norm - one which is trumped by the universal norm, as Fr Dickson indicates.<br /><br />The devil, surely, is in the detail. Jesu, convert England!Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-63855541260957778672011-06-14T19:05:34.232+01:002011-06-14T19:05:34.232+01:00Those of us of a traditional 'hue' will al...Those of us of a traditional 'hue' will all tear our hair out (if we have any left to tear out!) BUT WHY? There's nothing new here. It's simply the E&W Hierarchy getting their own back for SP and the recent instruction UE.<br /><br />The chinese water torture that is the Bishops' Conference of E&W has done nothing to assist the Faith. Their drip-drip agenda with decisions such as this are only what we should expect. <br /><br />Over the years they have dripped poison into the very living body of the Church in this country and bit by bit they have slowly killed off/starved most of the vital organs required for daily, healthy spiritual living.<br /><br />They take away Holydays then some years later discuss putting them back in place. IF/when they do - just exactly WHO will go to Mass? <br /><br />Friday abstinence rears its head again and from some day in September the Catholic population will mysteriously resume the ancient practice! What a laugh. Will Joe and Mary Pew-Sitter take any notice? Will they heck as like.<br /><br />With reference to kneeling, the Parish I attend is mainly NO but the priest has tried to get people to kneel - in the main quite successfully but this intervention by the Bully Boy Bishops is not helpful at all - nor was it intended to be and therein lies the problem - the Devil IS in the detail! We really are dealing with a group of bullies here and I'm getting to the stage where I could resort to the playground mentality and really give one of them a 'good hiding'! Kyrie eleison.<br /><br />In many a way the Bishops' Conference intervention, like most of the previous ones emanating from their small minds and twisted mouths, can also be seen in the BBC's liberalising agenda-setting techniques. They keep showing pro-euthanisia propaganda - it eventually loses its shock factor and begins to become mainstream. Like keep putting Professor Tina Beattie on Radio 4's T4TDay and suddenly that is what all Catholics believe. Sadly - it most probably is. There are millions of little popes out there.<br /><br />I know that despair is a sin BUT I'm with Private Fraser on this one - you the know the one - where we are all doomed!Parate Viam Dominihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11737598679339995802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-68885456875675925592011-06-14T15:46:19.117+01:002011-06-14T15:46:19.117+01:00That our Bishops have been allowed by Rome to devi...That our Bishops have been allowed by Rome to deviate from the universal norm of kneeling to the local norm of standing does not thereby make that local deviation superior to the universal norm, hence the injunction by the DCDW that we may still receive kneeling. This is in keeping with Redemptionis sacramentum No. 92. <br />It seems that we are obsessed with the dignity of man in the celebration of the Novus Ordo, not the dignity of God and our necessary humility before Him. I venture to suggest that obedience to the Church’s moral norms in accord with the natural law (in order to give God humble adoration by the way we live) is never going to happen if we cannot even be obedient to a rubric which seeks humble adoration in liturgy. Those who cannot remain sinless (and who can?) or without pride (and who can?) could at least give obedient, humble adoration to God in the liturgy.Fr Dicksonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-77054632781124556772011-06-14T14:08:01.796+01:002011-06-14T14:08:01.796+01:00Unfortunately, in my diocese of H and N it is almo...Unfortunately, in my diocese of H and N it is almost impossible to kneel anywhere for holy Communion and everyone (well, almost everyone) automatically shuffles forward to stick out their hands. I make no apology for saying that whenever I am obliged to attend the new Mass I never go to Communion because I am not in the correct frame of mind (except in a very small number of orthodox parishes). Even if I were to shuffle forward I would go to the priest and NEVER to a lay person. The idea of bowing before receiving would look as if the communicant is bowing to the minister (of whatever hue) and there is no way I would do this. What is the Church in this country coming to when our spiritual leaders, who are responsible for our education in the faith, are determined that we shall not kneel before our Lord and God. Even Jesus Himself, fell on Hs face in the garden of Gethsemane when imploring God to let the chalice pass Him by. Perhaps our bishops need a refresher course in the Scriptures?When Will it End?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-36359383410371123162011-06-14T13:31:40.763+01:002011-06-14T13:31:40.763+01:00Yes Father, very frustrating. It’s hard not to thi...Yes Father, very frustrating. It’s hard not to think of this as an attempt to sabotage <i>Summorum Pontificum</i> - making the NO even more removed from the TLM. Not quite what the Holy Father had in mind about one informing the other!<br /><br />The bow before receiving when done standing has been recommended here in the US for some time. Many, but not all, do it. But it doesn’t replace the humility of ‘going on one’s knees’… I think part of what the Holy Father meant in regard to the ‘culture’ of today is that we have lost a sense of humility – even when it comes to God.<br /><br />Shades of Lucifer indeed!GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-79941040872507358342011-06-14T12:35:01.059+01:002011-06-14T12:35:01.059+01:00Fully support your views Father, what is happening...Fully support your views Father, what is happening to the Church in this country?Patrick Faheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4598228705498900088.post-90740956839550370112011-06-14T11:25:15.047+01:002011-06-14T11:25:15.047+01:00Excellent post and sentiments, Father.Excellent post and sentiments, Father.Richard Collinshttp://linenonthehedgerow.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com